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With UDisc, Ricky could be $1,000 richer

Ricky Wysocki could be $1,000 richer. If he had used the UDisc scoring app to check his incorrect paper scorecard, he would be $1,000 richer, have had a shot at the event championship, and he would have 10 more Tour Points – and we all know that Tour Points Matter. At last year’s Silver Cup, if Michael Johansen had used the UDisc scoring app to check his incorrect scorecard total, he would be $900 richer, would have carded another top three finish (which probably affects bonus payouts), and he would have earned 12 more Tour Points.

Below is Ricky’s paper scorecard, with the incorrect score recorded, followed by the UDisc hole info over the first six holes, correctly showing hole 4’s deuce. After the round, UDisc was changed to match the paper scorecard without consulting the players. This (which also happened in round 2 on this same card) cost Ricky another two stroke penalty.
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These are the highest profile cases where the UDisc app could have saved players strokes and money. There were over a dozen cases last year where players got penalty strokes for adding their scorecards incorrectly. Conversely, there were another dozen cases where the UDisc app saved players strokes by serving as a double check for their scores.

During the first DGPT event of the season, there were multiple scoring errors. Not only that, there were multiple types of scoring errors, all of which could have been avoided by a quick double check with UDisc before the scorecards were turned in. There were players that added their scorecard wrong and received a two stroke penalty. There were also players who had their scores written wrong on the scorecard by another player whose turn it was to keep score, again costing the player who had the wrong score a two stroke penalty.

In all of the cases above, the Pro Tour has a solution at the ready: the UDisc scoring app. In order for this solution to be fairly applied, it needs to be used equally by all players. The DGPT will mandate usage of the UDisc app at each of the nine remaining DGPT events in 2017. At the end of the year, the results of this test will be evaluated.

There are two ways for scores to be incorrect at the end of the round. They are either added wrong or the wrong score is written on the scorecard. In the first case, where players add their scores incorrectly, the UDisc app would simply add the scores up correctly and the player would notice that the two totals don’t match. Problem solved.

In the second case, scores are entered incorrectly on the scorecard. This happens when a player says, “I got a three” and the scorekeeper writes down a score other than three. This could be due to simple miscommunication or just hearing what you expect to hear. For example, I think you are going to make a putt so I turn around and walk to the next tee as you putt out. You oddly missing your five footer. When you go to the next tee and say you got a three, I could literally hear you say you got a two, because it is what I expected.

The UDisc app requires a player to say where each shot landed and records the score based on this information. With players saying where each shot landed, or a score keeper recording where each shot landed as they go, the miscommunication examples from the paragraph above would disagree with the scores in the UDisc app. Again, the error would be caught before the scorecard was turned in.

At our first event, the UDisc app had the correct data in all three cases that resulted in penalty strokes, but it was not checked against the scores on the scorecard. Here is our plan to test the usage of the UDisc app at the next Pro Tour event:

  1. The UDisc app must be used by each card. It is the responsibility of each player to keep score using the app for four or five holes, the same as the scorecard, which is also used. We would recommend that different people enter the information on the scorecard and the app.
  2. At the completion of each hole, the players proceed to the next tee where the UDisc scorer asks, “Player 1, throws and score”. Player 1 replies “fairway, circle 1, 10 foot putt for a three”. The UDisc scorer enters the landing position of each throw while the scorecard scorer enters a “3”. This continues for each player – and adds about a minute to the time spent on the next tee pad. With every card doing this, it would cause no additional backups, but would slow the round down by about 15 mintues.
  3. At the completion of the round, players must compare the score on the scorecard to the score in the UDisc app. If the scores match, the card is turned in and the UDisc app score is finalized. If the scores do not match, the card and UDisc app are reviewed until the error is found. Once found, the card is turned in and the UDisc app score is finalized.

We understand that the tradition of the scorecard is important. It is also important to remember the overall goal – to reward each player based on the number of throws it took them to navigate the course. Using the UDisc app in conjunction with a paper scorecard will double check every score and remove the possibility of a player losing thousands of dollars due to a scoring error.

Lastly, we should point out that the UDisc app is already an integral part of the Pro Tour. It provides live scoring and in-depth, real-time statistics for the spectators, players, and course designers. Here are some stats regarding UDisc usage on the Pro Tour.

Over 30K users, across all 50 states and over 60 countries followed the live scores. Over 20,000 times, player stats were reviewed. Millions of times, ads were viewed and served.
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14 Comments

  • Tim Widmer

    March 7, 2017 at 9:52 pm

    I have the app, but for some reason have a hard time inputting scores. I am usually good at just knowing where I am.. but can see when 4 are on a card. Some tournaments I always get surprised, thinking I may have been ahead, to be completely caught off guard on scores. I will try keeping score on my own from now on.

    • March 8, 2017 at 8:05 am

      The scoring app (UDisc Live) that is used by the Pro Tour is (currently) only available for the Pro Tour.

  • Barley

    March 7, 2017 at 11:22 pm

    While this could be true, who really knows what the outcome would by have been if Ricky was leading everyone heading into the final round? He very easily could have won the tournament, could have tanked, or could have finished in the same spot. No one will ever know I suppose.

    • March 8, 2017 at 8:06 am

      This is why I used the words “could have” in the title. We are agreed.

  • Barley

    March 7, 2017 at 11:27 pm

    Sorry, I was confused in which round the scoring error happened. Please disregard my last comment. So, he was had scoring errors on two rounds?

    • March 8, 2017 at 8:07 am

      Yes, it is a confusing issue. He had scoring issues in rounds 2 & 4.

  • Jason

    March 8, 2017 at 4:30 am

    While I agree the app may prove useful to get scoring right, the pros are going to hate having to state every stroke and will refute doing it guaranteed

    • March 8, 2017 at 8:09 am

      I am hoping that they will see the bigger picture – that we need to do this in order to make sure that the scores at our events maintain their integrity. The only reason these issues were caught are because of the extensive coverage at the event. It is possible that this is a significant issue in disc golf and I want to make sure that it is not even a possibility at Pro Tour events.

  • Matthew

    March 8, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    So will the players be using the scoring app only available to the DGPT, or the regular one available to the public? That wasn’t entirely clear to me.

    • Nate Heinold

      March 10, 2017 at 10:24 am

      They (or the scorer) will be using the UDisc Live app which is currently a Pro Tour only app. In the future, the plan is that it will be released to the general public.

  • Luke Mayberry

    March 8, 2017 at 6:08 pm

    Who had the card when scores were written down incorrectly? I feel as though perhaps they should share the punishment though obviously that’s not how the rules are currently. Love the idea of using the app more to avoid future issues.

    • March 10, 2017 at 10:32 am

      I believe that Jalle Stoor had the card in Round 2 and Paul McBeth had the card in Round 4. I suspect that your proposal of shared penalties will be discussed. I also suspect it will not be enacted, but we shall see.

  • Darrell

    March 8, 2017 at 7:00 pm

    I think that if each player stating where every shot landed, each time scores were recorded on paper less mistakes would be made. But I feel the biggest fact is that these guys are pro’s and part of being a pro is recoding and counting your score properly!

    • March 10, 2017 at 10:33 am

      For the most part I agree. My central tenet on this is that recording and tallying scores should not affect a player’s payout or position.

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