Bradley Williams – 18 Month Suspension

I was not there. I did not see what went down. With the exception of Bradley’s version, the story recounted is similar. Viewed only in the context of Bradley’s previous actions, a stiff punishment is clearly warranted.

However, context matters.

Before this action, Bradley Williams was on probation with the PDGA. At a previous event, Bradley had kicked over a basket – apparently it spit out a putt that was important to him. For this, Bradley was suspended. When his suspension ended, he was allowed to play PDGA sanctioned events, but he was on probation.

As myself and many players on the Pro Tour can attest, Bradley has been a pleasure to watch and has successfully controlled his clear negative emotions at times when, in the past, he would have acted out and caused a significant disturbance. He has clearly demonstrated that he is making an effort and, until this incident, he has been succeeding.

The disc golf culture that I admire and preach about almost daily embodies peace, love, understanding, listening, acceptance, grace and, I like to think, forgiveness. If Bradley was not making any efforts to modify his behavior, then, following the culture of the discs guidelines, this action by the PDGA, while a bit draconian for the charge, is warranted.

The problem that I see, and this is just my opinion after talking to a few of the primary people involved, is that he clearly was making positive strides. To make an analogy, if an addict recognizes their addiction, puts people and processes in place to help them overcome their addiction, succeeds for quite a while, then, in a bad moment, fails, how should society react? How should their friends react?

As a friend, as a disc golf body, our goal needs to be to foster success, on and off the course.

Having seen a similar situation in my life, I can confidently say that pushing them away, and telling them they are bad and not wanted is going to make the situation harder to overcome. While not opening ourselves up to being taken advantage of, we need to embrace Bradley, let him know that we see the positive strides he has made, let him know that this type of behavior is not acceptable, and give him a fitting punishment along with the acknowledgement that we believe in him and accept him (and even like him :-).

Bradley knows that he did wrong. He also knows that he has been working to improve and that this one hiccup does not change the fact that his efforts, for the vast majority of the past year, have reaped great rewards. The PDGA, in my opinion, failed to recognize that there may be mitigating circumstances – that this incident does not define where Bradley is now – when determining a just punishment.

With the Bradley Williams suspension, things just got real.

The other contextual point that I think the PDGA failed to consider is the growth of the pro side of the sport. With the advent of the Pro Tour and the World Tour, many more players are now able to – or at least attempting to – make their livings playing disc golf professionally. Bradley Williams is one of these people. In the past, he has played local (Texas) events and done very well. This year, he committed to touring professionally. Additionally, he clearly put much effort into taking charge of his emotions and not letting them get the better of him.

Kudos to him for taking on both tasks at the same time and succeeding on both counts more than anyone dared to imagine he would.

Until this suspension, the PDGA’s disciplinary process has come under relatively little outside review. The vast majority of players are suspended due to actions taken a smaller local events. The players are not well known and the suspensions don’t matter much except to tell these players that they should play in their local monthlies rather than PDGA events. This serves a good purpose and I suspect is done well. The level of decorum at a PDGA event should be higher than at a local monthly. The PDGA brand matters and should be respected.

However, while the vast majority of disciplinary actions are relatively local and insignificant, this action has taken away a player’s ability to earn a living. With the possible exception of Cam Todd in the early 2000s, this is the first time that a disciplinary action has had this type of impact. From the outside looking in, it seems that this type of first time action should be taken very seriously. We used to be kids playing with lunch money. Now we are adults, at our first job, and we have rent to pay.

I’ve talked with both parties involved and the stories are similar, except the intent that started the altercation. I’m not comfortable rehashing it here as I do not think it is my place, but suffice it to say that Bradley recognizes that his actions were unbecoming of a professional athlete on the stage of our sport’s largest payout ever.

Bearing in mind Bradley’s past issues, his clear efforts at improving, his failure to control his emotions in this instance, and the fact that we now have professional disc golfers, this is a very difficult decision.

The interesting thing about this altercation is that it is actually easy to see the direct fallout. The altercation happened and the following player, whose performance was quite possibly negatively affected, threw his next two shots out of bounds. In the tournament scenario of stroke and distance, this literally cost him four strokes.

I recognize that I sometimes make things too simple, but a clear option of punishment, would be for Bradley to forfeit his earnings of $950. Next, I would directly compensate the other player $260. This is the amount he would have earned without those four strokes. Additionally, I would take the difference ($950-$260=$690) and donate it to St. Jude, the charity of choice for the PDGA. Lastly, I would add 12 months probation onto Bradley’s current probation. This type of ruling sets a precedent and, as the sport grows and the numbers increase, the significance of the punishment will naturally increase.

This way, Bradley recognizes that this is important, that we know he is putting forth an effort to improve, and that his probation period has been extended so his actions will still be viewed under a microscope. The aggrieved party knows that their point was heard and has been made as whole as possible. Lastly, the PDGA shows that they recognize that the sport is growing up and that they failed to take into account that they were taking away a player’s ability to make a living.

The tough part of the culture of the disc is the ability to be fair and honest in our heart. When someone points out an error that we make, our natural reaction is to get defensive. The culture of the disc teaches us to listen and accept what is being said. There is a reason it is being said and it is important to recognize where it is coming from and learn from it.


  • Fishead Tim

    September 10, 2016 at 4:42 am

    Well said.

  • Vinnie

    September 10, 2016 at 5:22 am

    I could not agree with you more.Brad has been moving in a positive direction and should be treated as such. The The PDGA is opening Pandora’s box in issuing a penalty of this magnutud. An outburst of disrespect doesn’t warrant a response of this level. The PDGA should learn from this and develope a more ridged penalty to altercation outline.

  • Vinnie Miller

    September 10, 2016 at 5:23 am

    I could not agree with you more.Brad has been moving in a positive direction and should be treated as such. The The PDGA is opening Pandora’s box in issuing a penalty of this magnutud. An outburst of disrespect doesn’t warrant a response of this level. The PDGA should learn from this and develope a more ridged penalty to altercation outline.

  • David Hemmeline

    September 10, 2016 at 5:46 am

    Sounds reasonable, productive, compassionate, and positive. I hope they are reading this and taking notes. Great point about how the role of the PDGA just got real. They have moved from being leaders of a small group of weekend warriors to leaders of actual working men and women. All jokes aside about the pay of a professional disc golfer, these are now important economic decisions. Steve your opinion is so important to this sport. Thank you for all you’ve done.

  • Anon

    September 10, 2016 at 5:54 am

    Well said and I agree with everything except there should be some sort of suspension. Maybe the remainder of this season. But with the other solutions you came up with and the suspension, I think this would make other disc golfers think before they act with a track record like Mr Williams being on probation simply doesn’t mean anything to him. Everyone gets fired up but they just can’t toward another competitor.

    • September 12, 2016 at 12:19 pm

      This could easily be a consensus opinion. Well said.

  • Mike

    September 10, 2016 at 6:46 am

    The rationale conceded in the write-up seems to be more appropriate action and demonstrations a stern response without jeopardizing the livelihood of a touring pro. This response is more in line with the course of action that the PDGA should have taken.

  • Emmett

    September 10, 2016 at 7:07 am

    On probation.. reoffeended.. pinishment administered. I dislike playing with babies in pros clothing. Walking on eggshells for an entire round or tournament because someone is unstable or volatile should not have to happen at the pro level. After my brief pro tour experience I used to tell up amd coming players to “play like a pro, not act like one..” In my book true champions are Humble, Honest, Gracious and Grateful. If youare this persons friend then you should be helping him get a grip on his emotions, not blaming the pdga for enforcing the rules.

    • September 12, 2016 at 12:19 pm

      I agree 100% that his friends – and even the DG community – should be helping him as much as possible. I do not blame the PDGA for enforcing the rules. I simply disagree with the severity of the punishment.

  • KD

    September 10, 2016 at 8:17 am

    The PDGA needs to set an example of Bradley, and that his actions will not be tolerated at a PDGA event. His winnings at that event should be forfeited, he should be suspended (again), and an additional 12 months of probation should be issued. If this were handled like a true professional sport he’d also be fined and prbably lose sponsorships. Innova wants a player like this representing their brand? Dave?

    • KD

      September 10, 2016 at 8:25 am

      Wait. Is the suggested punishment by the author of this article so lenient bc Bradley won a DGPT event, The Vibram Open? I don’t care if you think he’s making strides in rearranging his bad attitude on and off the course. His actions show that his bad attitude will continue unless the PDGA teaches him a lesson and forces him to learn the value of competing in a sport to support his “livelihood”.

      • September 12, 2016 at 12:19 pm

        I’d like to believe that it does not matter who he is or what event he won. As a human, I may be wrong, but I do not think so. In my opinion, there are two types of acting out by a pro – behavioral and outright cheating.

        In other sports, behavioral would be taking your helmet off while on the field, not talking to reporters, or telling the reporters in colorful language what you think of the referees. In disc golf, it is excessive and/or loud repeated cursing. It is not paying attention to your responsibilities in the group. It is kicking a basket. In most professional sports, these penalties are met with fines. Repeated or excessive behavioral outbursts could also be met with suspensions.

        Cheating, betting on an event you are playing in or could influence, and breaking the rules to gain an advantage. These are the types of things that, in most pro sports, would warrant a suspension.

        There there is the myriad of stuff in between that is murky and needs to be ironed out. This is the stuff we debate energetically, and the discussions are a good thing.

  • WF

    September 10, 2016 at 10:10 am

    If disc golf wants to be serious abut “growing the sport” than the PDGAs action was not only warranted in this situation, it was required. First and foremost, he has a long list of infractions and suspensions and probations. THIS has to be taken into account. 2ndly, he physically touched another player in an manner not supported by the PDGA or sportsmanship. Physical altercations and violence is admonisted by most corporate companies, and they will not do business or associate themselves with such activities. This means mainstream sponsors would have another reason to stay away from the sport. The DG culture should not allow folks to get a pass simply because they are making an effort and showing strides in behavior modification. If he cant handle the emotions and situations that occur during a sanctioned tournament round and follow ALL the conduct rules of said tournament, DO NOT PLAY in them, simple solution. Lastly behavoir modification does not occur overnight, in a week or a month. It takes time, this 18 months will give him all the time he needs to get some Professional help to manage his anger and emotions, so he can play like a Professional both in skill and in conduct.

    • September 12, 2016 at 12:20 pm

      I agree with your comments entirely. The only part I have not been able to confirm is the precise intent or cause of the physical contact. From my initial conversations with both parties involved, it sounded like that was not the primary issue or even a big deal. The primary issue was the moving off to the side and forward a little bit rather than behind the tee. Ultimately, this is what caused the courtesy warning.

  • J Lane

    September 10, 2016 at 10:22 am

    No one wants to play with a cactus. So many people play who do not act so poorly during play. He was already suspended once before, and on probation, two things that will never happen to most of us. How many chances should be given? When it comes down to it, he cannot or will not control himself for whatever reason. If this is your livelihood and your job, then you have to be better. I don’t feel bad for his situation, it is self-inflicted and given the previous suspension and probation, completely warranted. He can come back in 18 months and I genuinely hope he does, and with a good attitude.

    • September 12, 2016 at 12:20 pm

      You are correct that the PDGA did correct taking past actions into account. Unfortunately, I believe that past actions were taken into account more than this altercation, which from my discussions with the players involved, seemed relatively minor, albeit initially extremely emotion filled.

  • Bruce Brakel

    September 10, 2016 at 10:33 am

    You really can’t make an argument without facts. You can’t say anything persuasive about the appropriate punishment without first describing the inappropriate behavior. If what he did caused other players to fear for their safety, then the PDGA has to fear for the image of the sport and their financial liability if a future situation escalates. I’m curious, is this the punishment of the Disciplinary Committee? Did he appeal to the Board? Regardless, you have to get your act together before you take it on the road, no matter what your act is. As Oz once observed in “Buffy”, “Well, other bands know more than three chords. Your professional bands can play up to six, sometimes seven completely different chords.” Maybe he needs to take 18 months and learn a few more chords.

    • September 12, 2016 at 12:20 pm

      As a Buffy fan, I’m shocked I do not know the reference, but we can all agree that, in most cases, three chords is not enough to take on the road.

      • Pj

        January 29, 2017 at 8:39 pm

        Deep Purple begs to differ

  • George q

    September 10, 2016 at 11:32 am

    But here in the real world, if a person is serving a probated sentence, and that person does somthing to violate the terms of that probated sentance, their probation is revoked and they get sent to jail. I think the PDGA got it right. I don’t agree that 18 months is the appropriate suspension.

    • September 12, 2016 at 12:21 pm

      Well said. Our positions are very close.

  • Chris Dierkens

    September 10, 2016 at 6:17 pm

    Thank you Steve. This was exactly what I expected from you and the DGPT.

  • Branden Lee

    September 10, 2016 at 7:38 pm

    If an employee gets in trouble at work on a regular basis, OK, let’s say they are written up and then suspended for misconduct, then they do good for a while, their record still stays the same regardless of the good steps they have taken since. Then, down the line they have a physical altercation with another employee, they’re out looking for a new job. Disc Golf is s growing sport and we all have something to prove. There is no room in the sport for this behavior and I believe suspension was a Godsend for him.

    • September 12, 2016 at 12:21 pm

      I’m not sure this analogy holds up exactly. I’ve worked with people that have a tremendously negative attitude and caused issues, but since they do their job well, these issues are overlooked. Conversely, someone at work that does not perform well would be canned for a relatively minor infraction.

      In this case, I’m not sure who the “employer” would be. And, in my opinion, in this case, job performance should have nothing to do with the punishment.

      DG is growing and we need to be seen as consistent and professional in the way these things are handled.

      • JLoweKC

        September 13, 2016 at 10:32 am

        Negative attitudes and causing issues at a job aren’t the same analogy as having verbal, written, and final warnings. The OP is spot in the assumption that once a record has been started, a record is maintained. The NFL is an example of Fines that escalate every TIME. In most companies having documentation to support a behavior of poor decision making leads to termination. A poor performing individual as well has a record of “poor performance” as such they may be released as well.

        I am a believer that he will file an appeal and that will raise the eyebrows in the sport as well. How many appeals have been heard? Who is the overseer of the appeal hearing, does he need to get legal counsel in there?

        The thing about this to me is quite simple. A suspended player that moved to probation violated rulings while under probation. When on double secret probation and you know it, you have to play above yourself, and be more cognizant of your every move on the course. In particular when you are looking at this as a model of income. If it’s a hobby, who cares that you can’t play in a sanctioned event. When it becomes part of your livelihood, you MUST pay closer attention to everything you do, others around you will as well. What if the PDGA member wasn’t even on the card that filed the complaint because they “saw” something that wasn’t appropriate? Do you ignore it? Do you give it credibility enough to investigate? The bottom line in this stance is that the PDGA is in a tough place. You can’t harm his career by posting the information without all processes and his approval. It could impact his ability to make $$$ from other sponsors, not only events. You can’t be “clear and free” to give the public it wants because of this. You also look like you are hiding something due to the nature of the secrecy it seems.

        It is needed. If Brad decided to post the letter he got about the suspension that is one thing, but it isn’t the place of the PDGA to post about all the tidbits. Just as PGA, NFL, MLB, NBA, may state, suspension, the press gets releases from the player, the players or their agents typically release this information to the press, not the governing organization.

        The length, it truly serves as a year, it really makes it until 2018 for him to play, essentially cutting out 2017. My own thought is that if the suspension is reduced, look for a reinstatement date around 10/15/17……

        You can’t be on probation and break rules, this is biggest logical thought for this lengthy suspension IMO. Yours will vary and that is ok.

  • Goober

    September 10, 2016 at 7:45 pm

    So your suggestion is to increase his current probation (which was entirely ineffective at preventing his threats and disruptive behavior)? If so, we’re not buying what you’re selling. Playing disc golf for a living is a privilege and a pretty darn fragile one. When he grows up and fills those “pro” shoes he’s supposed to be wearing, he’ll no longer have childish outbursts. Talk is cheap (“He’s getting better”), behavior speak volumes.

    • September 12, 2016 at 12:21 pm

      My suggestion included a sizable fine in the form of lost winnings at the event AND a lengthened probation. The fine is the primary part of the punishment. Saying that I am suggesting just lengthening the probation is incorrect.

      The PDGA disciplinary actions file does not show when his previous actions happened, but I am under the impression it was over 2..5 years ago. That is a pretty long time and does in fact show a level of self correction, albeit apparently not quite enough.

      • Seriously?

        September 14, 2016 at 9:31 am

        Please see these as evidence of his recent infractions:
        So, he was suspended a little over a year ago. You can’t say his record has been clean for a while if he was not even allowed to compete. That’s like saying a guy in jail hasn’t committed a crime since he was locked up, so he must have reformed.

        Personally, I think touring pro’s should be held to a higher standard, because they need to be our idols. It is also needed to show the up-and-comers that this behavior will not be tolerated even at the lower levels. Steve, I like your guiding priciples of the disc, and want to maintain that culture WHENEVER I am on the course.

  • Steve

    September 11, 2016 at 4:56 am

    if the sport is his job then he needs to treat it like one. If I made ANY kind of physically aggressive move towards someone at my job, for ANY reason, I would be fired and possibly arrested. Athletes shouldn’t get a pass because they can throw things farther than the rest of us or because they are “doing better”…I thought the P stood for professional.

    • September 12, 2016 at 12:21 pm

      See previous comment about the employer / employee relationship.

      • JLoweKC

        September 13, 2016 at 2:16 pm

        If you have any physical confrontation at work (except UFC, Boxing, NFL during plays, etc…) you will get removed from the office. Just as a pitcher/coach in the MLB for throwing at a person will get ejected, this is an ejection from the sport on a repeat offender. He has options for an appeal.

        As an HR professional for 20+ years I can tell you first hand that there are employee handbooks and workplace rules for a reason. There isn’t a “Good behavior for improving your actions” warning. It is expected. It is expected that you constantly maintain and adhere to the rules and policies in place. Once you aren’t following those, its documented. That documentation is what led to this initial penalty is my best guess. That history of being warned is what led to the extent. The appeal process should be interesting to see the next alignment.

        Again though, his posting and articles that I have read to date (as factual as they are made out to be…there are always 3 sides to a story folks) at not point accept any responsibility, remorse, or apologies, quite simply they state essentially…”we took care of it ourselves” yet a complaint was filed, and it was deemed to have enough to warrant one of the longest penalties to date. There MUST be something more to the story than read is all I can assume. It wasn’t a brief passing, but a more prevalent undertone of improper behavior on the course…..at least IMO…..Your mind may vary….

  • Bruce Duke

    September 11, 2016 at 12:59 pm

    I don’t understand how people say he was doing better. He just went a little longer between episodes. One thing that caught my attention about Bradley’s statement was there wasn’t an apology to the pdga, Innova or the fans. The also wasn’t an acknowledgement of his probation. I read the two statements and they’re like day and night. And no, I do not believe Bradley’s account. He isn’t remorseful for the situation. He just remorseful for the punishment. I do think the pdga could over him a path to early reinstatement. Which I would began with a trip to see Dr Phil.

    • September 12, 2016 at 12:21 pm

      I was hoping to see some acknowledgement of remorse as well.

  • Eff Aytch

    September 11, 2016 at 1:38 pm

    It’s not the PDGA’s responsibility to mentor every troubled kid that has a temper tantrum. They are there to guide the sport as a whole. Rather than helping one hopeless douche out, its much more productive to send the message to the thousands of players out there that this behavior will not fly. Kind words though, Steve. I dig what you do, but the PDGA made the hard choice here, and it was the right one.

    • September 12, 2016 at 12:21 pm

      I fully believe the PDGA did make the hard choice that fits with their traditional model of punishment. My concern is that the sport, for a select few, is different now. We are no longer simply banning players from playing C-Tiers and telling them to go play monthlies. We are now stripping away someone’s livelihood. This makes the consequences of the punishment much larger than they used to be and, therefore, I believe the punishment scale needs to be reviewed.

      • Caley Thomas

        September 12, 2016 at 7:21 pm

        Mr. Dodge,

        I found your article and subsequent replies to posts to be thoughtful, well-articulated, and even-handed. Thank you for attempting to stay above the fray on this (apparently) deeply divisive issue to many.

        To the PDGA community at large, I implore you to resist a snap judgement in this situation, and to try to take into account the variety of astute observations that Mr. Dodge has made during this post. This is clearly a topic that deserves careful consideration, not just for Bradley’s sake, but for all current pros who are braving a full time career in disc golf.

        Since presumably none of us are privy to all of the facts at hand on the most recent incident, other than the disciplinary committee and the PDGA board member Panel ( http://www.pdga.com/files/PDGA%20Disciplinary%20Process%20Final%2009232014.pdf ) , any overtly strong opinions from the outside as to what the precise punishment should be/should have been/should change to, appears myopic at best.

        I do, however, feel that, in general, the punishment comes across as overly punitive in nature, given the context of the player’s recent positive strides and the apparent nature of the infraction (ostensibly a courtesy violation for obstructing a player’s peripheral view of the hole while standing in the gallery section, but not behind the tee, during an admittedly emotionally reactive moment for both players).

        I can attest personally to the player’s positive emotional growth (if only from a close distance) over the past couple of years in regards to his professional decorum on and off the course in Texas, having participated (as an Amateur) in several tournaments along with him over the years.

        This includes the tournament where the initially penalized infraction occurred (basket kicking, which again, was done in a moment of frustration, on a temporary basket, apparently knocking the basket over, but leaving the basket itself unharmed as a result).

        Subsequent to his suspension ending for that action, at another Texas tournament, I introduced myself to him (as a relative stranger) while applauding him for his seemingly heartfelt apology on facebook following that incident. He again responded with what I believed to be sincere regret and embarrassment about the situation, and had no apparent reason to represent otherwise to a random amateur player at the time.

        Since then, youtube can help to attest to the fact that he has consistently carried himself as a consummate professional on the course on the national level (at least while on camera on top cards during, presumably, the highest levels of disc golf related stress, as that is as far as I can know since he went on tour).

        During this stretch of relative calm, I can think of countless incidents by other players on the top pro level which have, on camera, exhibited far greater emotional outbursts during tough luck moments which evidently have not accrued any suspension penalties.

        I sincerely hope that this situation provides an impetus to the PDGA board as a whole to help provide greater clarity to top level pros, and to the membership at large, as to what criteria is/should be used moving forward when assessing both probation violation terms and suspension terms, so that we can all learn and grow from this situation, be better prepared to avoid such penalties, and to educate fellow golfers on these issues as well.

        • September 12, 2016 at 9:46 pm

          Here here.

          • Mack

            September 13, 2016 at 8:25 am

            Or, hear hear.

  • Tero Tommola

    September 13, 2016 at 6:03 am

    I like the brotherhood, personal growth and friendship ideologies in this post of yours Steven, but I have to, I HAVE to pin light on one very important question:

    Even if the PDGA would take into account named positive strides said person has taken, what evidence is there for that? Is it enough that the individuals friends attest to this? Is a testimony from a stranger any better?
    Humans can lie or be mistaken.

    Let’s say you never played with him. How would you know if he is actually done progress? Or, let’s say you were his friend and played with him all the time – what if he plays nice in your group, but when no one that knows him is on the card, the child comes out with the tantrums? What if you simply do not see it?

    Please note that I is not saying Bradley has done so – I am merely stating the very real problem with said positive progress being very hard to prove, very hard to put into evidence.

    I would like to play nice and always give a new chance, but there simply has to be a line drawn at some point, where enough is enough and the penalty is harsh enough to be the “last wake up call”.

    The other players playing with a troubled individual ALSO have their livelihoods jeopardized – because bad behavior does affect others on your card – all of us probably know this to be true.

    Do not forget that side of it.

    • September 13, 2016 at 7:27 am

      You are absolutely correct. Besides my interactions with Bradley over the past four Pro Tour events – where I have personally only seen him five or six times – I do not have any evidence of improved behavior. Your point is valid and, just like we can’t presume someone is guilty, we also cannot presume that someone is improving. Both need proof to be accepted as valid. Thank you.

      • Tero Tommola

        September 14, 2016 at 2:27 am

        Agreed 100%, neither stance can be just assumed.
        Proof is always necessary.

  • Mack

    September 13, 2016 at 8:33 am

    Very thoughtful post, and it’s nice to see a discussion being had that isn’t immediately reduced to name calling and ad hominem attacks. I think the larger concern is the reputation of the sport. I have no interest in coddling touring pros. I admire the guts and the discipline in takes to hit the road and try to make a living at this…but when you do, you carry some responsibility to the game. Most pros know this, at least from what I’ve seen. Being a good golfer does not mean you’re a good person. I’ve met a few pros and I can tell you firsthand that is true. Lastly, as far as “taking away his livelihood, he’s young and healthy and can support himself working a job until he has worked through his issues.

  • Jamie Danger

    September 13, 2016 at 10:07 am

    I think MD should be the headline not BW, I really don’t play many NT events, but most PDGA events self officiate, and TDs step in to settle disputes. Calling in the DC, well kinda lame. MD should take a little more responsibility for his actions that resulted in a golfers expulsion.

  • K

    September 13, 2016 at 11:15 am

    Still needs to be a 12 month suspension for physical behavior. This is simply intolerable to our sport. Can anyone name me the last time this shit happened in ball golf? Nope… I’m done here…

    • Gum

      September 13, 2016 at 11:47 am

      Well said! I totally agree! Kids makin money doing what they love…and what… They’re so angry and upset. This is so wow to me. At least 1 billon children can’t eat and have clean fresh water today. Grow the fuck up and become a man!! #littlekidsactinglikeingreatfullgapingbuttholes


    September 13, 2016 at 3:30 pm

    Well said! As a pro myself, do I think Bradley did it out of hate? No. I have played beside him in tournaments and never once did he get mad at anyone or himself. While competing in the Texas State Championship, I was his caddy and it was bad weather conditions and Bradley had some great golfers playing on the same card that he was. Cam Todd was one of those players, and not one time did Bradley get mad at anyone. There were times that I knew he made a bad shot and he knew he could have done better. He kept things to himself and moved on to the next hole. Bradly is a good discgolfer and also a great guy, quite and don’t really like to talk much. Now, as for as the suspension, my opinion is PDGA went too far. My question is, if it would have been Paul McBeth, would PDGA have given him the same suspension? Probably not!!!! I know this is a sport that has taken off but people this is not the MLB or NFL. As a player I hope it becomes that big one day. On the other hand, for number one, PDGA pros do not get paid as much as MLB or NFL. Those professionals do not get suspensions like what was given to Bradley. I know he has done some things in the past. I think he has come along way with how he handles things now compared to then. So I think that PDGA needs to take a better look at it and make the suspension more fitting for our sport. Like the old saying… it takes two to tangle… so if you are going to suspend one, suspend the other as well. They are men and not kids. This is their job. Neither of them are better than the other. #PULLINFORUBRADLEY

  • Albert Guerrero

    September 14, 2016 at 4:02 pm

    This not an article. It is a blog.

  • Jef Hatch

    September 14, 2016 at 8:26 pm

    Just got done listening to Smashboxx podcast and had to see what was going on. I agree with you Steve that the 18 month punishment is too long. A year would be more with in the realm. The problems I have with your stance is two-fold. First, to blame the punishment and the PDGA for Bradley’s loss of income is absolutely ludicrous. Bradley’s actions cost him. If hadn’t of reacted the way he did then there would have been no need for punishment. He needs to take ownership (and you need to let him do so) for his actions and admit his wrong doing. The punishment needs to fit the crime but saying that the punishment needs to be less because it affects his income is simply enabling behavior on your part. There are a ton of things that he could do. Let him teach or give private lessons or flip burgers or anything, but to say that the punishment takes away his living is just stupid, because his ACTIONS are what are taking away his opportunity to make a living playing a game. Let’s also remember that playing disc golf (or any professional sport) for a living is a privilege not a right.
    Second, for you to enable his behavior by desanctioning your next tournament is ridiculous. You stated on Smashboxx that you want to work with the PDGA to make disc golf better. Q: What do your actions say to the PDGA about your wanting to work together? A: That you’re willing to work together when it benefits you and the DGPT. Exactly the same behavior you criticize them for. You have an obligation to the sport to uphold the rulings of the governing body and support them. Make your voice heard and work to change what I think we all see as too harsh a punishment, but don’t undermine the very organization you claim to want to work with. I understand you want McBeth to be able to play and you want Williams to be able to play, but they both made their own choices and if we want to survive as a professional organization we need to not be swayed by the *powerful and mighty* but hold to what is best for the greater good.

  • Brian Meigs

    September 22, 2016 at 2:19 pm

    For what it’s worth from an old timer:
    1. Transparency has always been something of an issue with the PDGA, as it is in all political systems. In any case, the structure of penalties and their progression needs to be public, as it is in almost every other sport, code of conduct or employment contract.
    2. There are very good reasons for golf’s USGA and PGA being separate organizations – they serve parallel aims. Wise people look to good role models when needing direction or clarification.
    3. Even the most cynical person can see how support and positive social reinforcement for ‘recovering’ members can pay benefits beyond political platitudes. As Dodge alludes, positive social reinforcements actually enact the deep values that are the wellsprings of all good things in life.

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